Comments on: Update from Tianjin: Report on the Ground http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/ Tracking the emerging technological, commercial, political and social revolution that is greening China's red-hot economy. Thu, 17 May 2012 08:36:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: David http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-28761 David Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:48:48 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-28761 em... although this project is profit driven, it's still a G to G project driven top-down. Anybody heard anything about the Sino-Singapore Nanjing Eco Hi-tech Island in the Yangtze River ? em… although this project is profit driven, it’s still a G to G project driven top-down. Anybody heard anything about the Sino-Singapore Nanjing Eco Hi-tech Island in the Yangtze River ?

]]> By: The Death and Life of Model “Eco-cities” « Visa-India http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-13197 The Death and Life of Model “Eco-cities” « Visa-India Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:06:14 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-13197 [...] great Green Leap Forward blog about China’s sustainability evolution, who most recently posted some great images comparing the lofty plans for Tianjin with progress on the [...] [...] great Green Leap Forward blog about China’s sustainability evolution, who most recently posted some great images comparing the lofty plans for Tianjin with progress on the [...]

]]> By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Eco-Infrastructure: Letting Nature Do the Work http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-5951 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Eco-Infrastructure: Letting Nature Do the Work Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:50:10 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-5951 [...] eco efforts.)  The contrast of the hilly, dry and degraded physical landscape in Mentougou to the salt-marshes of the proposed Tianjin eco-city, and to highly urbanized Xiamen, for which an eco-city retorofit is being proposed, was stark.  It [...] [...] eco efforts.)  The contrast of the hilly, dry and degraded physical landscape in Mentougou to the salt-marshes of the proposed Tianjin eco-city, and to highly urbanized Xiamen, for which an eco-city retorofit is being proposed, was stark.  It [...]

]]> By: Frank http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2358 Frank Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:53:41 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2358 Julian, A great report. Tje project and its progress are really impressive. However, we remember Mao's "Great leap forward" in late 1950s, which was a big failure. Hope this "Green Leap" project were not be similar one. I am wondering how how much govt and social funding has to be poured into this project, what is efficiency and effectness to build this eco-city in this wetland (salt farm land, not wasteland). If we use same funds to build an eco-subcity near Shanghai or Beijing, the effect and infulence will be much more significant, for instance, to build the world fair village in Shanghai to be such an eco-city. In addition, in this global finance crisis time, it would be better to put money to other urgent place. Again, the Great leap led to a "great" desaster, I wish the "Green Leap" won't getting into a "green" disorder -- breaking the nature balance. Julian,
A great report. Tje project and its progress are really impressive. However, we remember Mao’s “Great leap forward” in late 1950s, which was a big failure. Hope this “Green Leap” project were not be similar one. I am wondering how how much govt and social funding has to be poured into this project, what is efficiency and effectness to build this eco-city in this wetland (salt farm land, not wasteland). If we use same funds to build an eco-subcity near Shanghai or Beijing, the effect and infulence will be much more significant, for instance, to build the world fair village in Shanghai to be such an eco-city. In addition, in this global finance crisis time, it would be better to put money to other urgent place. Again, the Great leap led to a “great” desaster, I wish the “Green Leap” won’t getting into a “green” disorder — breaking the nature balance.

]]> By: Julian http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2200 Julian Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:04:14 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2200 Thanks for everyone's comments! Here are my quick responses: #2: Is there a golf course?! I must have missed that. I agree with you, Charlie, on the irony of the golf courses in such a place. If there is one, it is probably to prove a point on the part of the Singapore planners that with the proper water recycling/management systems, even golf courses are possible in a water scarce region, as they are in Singapore. Not defending it, just speculating on the underlying thinking. #3: Wastelands, according to the official literature, Brendan. Much of the land is degraded by extensive salt farming such that the lands are described as saline-alkaline wastelands (盐碱荒地). The degraded quality of the land was actually a selling point to the eco-city developers...they wanted to show it was possible to rehabilitate a site with a degraded environment and change it into a liveable township. #4: Sorry, did not find out about that, Christine. Happy to put you in touch with Brian of #5! Thanks for the offer, Brian! Thanks for everyone’s comments! Here are my quick responses:

#2: Is there a golf course?! I must have missed that. I agree with you, Charlie, on the irony of the golf courses in such a place. If there is one, it is probably to prove a point on the part of the Singapore planners that with the proper water recycling/management systems, even golf courses are possible in a water scarce region, as they are in Singapore. Not defending it, just speculating on the underlying thinking.

#3: Wastelands, according to the official literature, Brendan. Much of the land is degraded by extensive salt farming such that the lands are described as saline-alkaline wastelands (盐碱荒地). The degraded quality of the land was actually a selling point to the eco-city developers…they wanted to show it was possible to rehabilitate a site with a degraded environment and change it into a liveable township.

#4: Sorry, did not find out about that, Christine. Happy to put you in touch with Brian of #5! Thanks for the offer, Brian!

]]> By: Brian http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2196 Brian Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:28:30 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2196 Christine, A colleague at Nankai Univeristy has told me his department is collaborating with a University in Beijing on a project aiming to purify existing water sources in the eco-city area. I can seek more details and put you in contact if you have further interest. Christine,
A colleague at Nankai Univeristy has told me his department is collaborating with a University in Beijing on a project aiming to purify existing water sources in the eco-city area. I can seek more details and put you in contact if you have further interest.

]]> By: Christine http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2052 Christine Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:05:54 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2052 any word on their toxin remediation strategy for the chemical -laden land and groundwater sources? any word on their toxin remediation strategy for the chemical -laden land and groundwater sources?

]]> By: Brendan http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2050 Brendan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:55:44 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2050 Are those wastelands or wetlands? Sometimes the distinction seems to get lost among land developers in China... Are those wastelands or wetlands? Sometimes the distinction seems to get lost among land developers in China…

]]> By: Charlie http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2047 Charlie Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:16:01 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2047 Hi Julian: No one beats China in producing scale models! One question though, how do the developers justify a golf course in a water scarce region? Hi Julian: No one beats China in producing scale models! One question though, how do the developers justify a golf course in a water scarce region?

]]> By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Blog Archive » Creating A Better Life: A Closer Look at the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-City Project http://greenleapforward.com/2008/11/21/update-from-tianjin-report-on-the-ground/#comment-2031 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Blog Archive » Creating A Better Life: A Closer Look at the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-City Project Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:56:19 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=141#comment-2031 [...] « JUCCCE Clean Energy Forum–Closing Summary Update from Tianjin: Report on the Ground [...] [...] « JUCCCE Clean Energy Forum–Closing Summary Update from Tianjin: Report on the Ground [...]

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