Comments on: Solarizing for Security http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/ Tracking the emerging technological, commercial, political and social revolution that is greening China's red-hot economy. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:05:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Much Ado About Solar II | FollowGreen.com http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-12114 Much Ado About Solar II | FollowGreen.com Mon, 25 May 2009 18:47:34 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-12114 [...] out of the Shade: Solar Energy as  National Security Energy, which we summarized before in a previous post, has now been published in three parts on China Dialogue.  While the content remains the same, [...] [...] out of the Shade: Solar Energy as  National Security Energy, which we summarized before in a previous post, has now been published in three parts on China Dialogue.  While the content remains the same, [...]

]]> By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Much Ado About Solar II http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-12107 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Much Ado About Solar II Mon, 25 May 2009 17:41:59 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-12107 [...] out of the Shade: Solar Energy as  National Security Energy, which we summarized before in a previous post, has now been published in three parts on China Dialogue.  While the content remains the same, [...] [...] out of the Shade: Solar Energy as  National Security Energy, which we summarized before in a previous post, has now been published in three parts on China Dialogue.  While the content remains the same, [...]

]]> By: Uncle B http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-7893 Uncle B Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:52:22 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-7893 Education in the rural areas is as important as getting the technologies, Solar in particular out to these regions and in use. An unfettered communist system might have an advantage here. America relies on massive investor driven profiteering ventures to develop Solar power in the South Western states, but falls back on nuclear as the last resort to a failing economy because it is cheaper, faster and more certain and reliable (than sunshine - American logic?). Smaller, powerful, totally repairable Solar units with good supply of replacement parts such as batteries appear to be in order. The Model T Ford was completely rebuildable with only a few modest tools, and was designed to be that way - this was its best selling point! The internet has a gas-Solar fridge with no moving or repairable parts, a sealed unit! This is another way to spread Solar power. Battery technologies are in their infancy right now, but huge advances have been made. Expect, that without the vicious capitalists planned obsolescence marketing tool designed in to victimize purchasers and assure future market for product, a good life-time battery can be made available in China and to the world, but not the capitalist controlled U.S,A. Perhaps the states-side has this to learn from China in the dying days of our Evil Empire. Education in the rural areas is as important as getting the technologies, Solar in particular out to these regions and in use. An unfettered communist system might have an advantage here. America relies on massive investor driven profiteering ventures to develop Solar power in the South Western states, but falls back on nuclear as the last resort to a failing economy because it is cheaper, faster and more certain and reliable (than sunshine - American logic?). Smaller, powerful, totally repairable Solar units with good supply of replacement parts such as batteries appear to be in order. The Model T Ford was completely rebuildable with only a few modest tools, and was designed to be that way - this was its best selling point! The internet has a gas-Solar fridge with no moving or repairable parts, a sealed unit! This is another way to spread Solar power. Battery technologies are in their infancy right now, but huge advances have been made. Expect, that without the vicious capitalists planned obsolescence marketing tool designed in to victimize purchasers and assure future market for product, a good life-time battery can be made available in China and to the world, but not the capitalist controlled U.S,A. Perhaps the states-side has this to learn from China in the dying days of our Evil Empire.

]]> By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Dawn of a New Era: The Gansu Solar Concession and Landmark Solar Roofs Program http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-7203 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » Dawn of a New Era: The Gansu Solar Concession and Landmark Solar Roofs Program Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:43:33 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-7203 [...] Energy as a National Security Strategy,” a policy paper I recently published and that I have previously summarized in this blog.  The Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development [...] [...] Energy as a National Security Strategy,” a policy paper I recently published and that I have previously summarized in this blog.  The Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development [...]

]]> By: Julian http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-6500 Julian Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:30:23 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-6500 @石弥迦: Thanks for pointing that out. Good to see that electricity price reform is a policy priority this year. Let's hope the govt lives up to its promise. @Christine: You are absolutely right. In fact, I understand that a lot of those solar street lighting stop working after 2, 3 years. The reason? The solar panels are fine (they have life spans of 25 years or more). Its the batteries, which are important because they store electricity in the day for eventual dispatch at night, that wear out after a few years, but do not get replaced simply because the ongoing operation and maintenance of these off-grid solar systems are not planned for at the design stage of these rural electrification programs. Long term, life-cycle planning, especially with respect to capacity building, is key. @石弥迦: Thanks for pointing that out. Good to see that electricity price reform is a policy priority this year. Let’s hope the govt lives up to its promise.

@Christine: You are absolutely right. In fact, I understand that a lot of those solar street lighting stop working after 2, 3 years. The reason? The solar panels are fine (they have life spans of 25 years or more). Its the batteries, which are important because they store electricity in the day for eventual dispatch at night, that wear out after a few years, but do not get replaced simply because the ongoing operation and maintenance of these off-grid solar systems are not planned for at the design stage of these rural electrification programs. Long term, life-cycle planning, especially with respect to capacity building, is key.

]]> By: Christine http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-6480 Christine Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:22:47 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-6480 Great stuff in the China Security article. Well researched & communicated, which is no surprise. One point relating to your article. As a rural researcher, I would point out the risk with using solar panels for the rural electrification projects in China. At present, China has relatively low operations & maintenance technical capacity for this type of advanced technology, therefore the panels will break down and become obsolete rather rapidly. You mention the lack of technical expertise for installation of the panels, but I also would worry about the proliferation of a complex technology to communities with no capacity to fix or operate the panels over a long time period. Rural parts of the developing world are littered with broken down water filter systems, bio-gas feeders, electric pumps, etc. Without training and education programs at regional and local levels, the availability of replacement parts, and local repair people, solar panels will end up in the rural stuff graveyard. What do you think? Great stuff in the China Security article. Well researched & communicated, which is no surprise.

One point relating to your article. As a rural researcher, I would point out the risk with using solar panels for the rural electrification projects in China. At present, China has relatively low operations & maintenance technical capacity for this type of advanced technology, therefore the panels will break down and become obsolete rather rapidly. You mention the lack of technical expertise for installation of the panels, but I also would worry about the proliferation of a complex technology to communities with no capacity to fix or operate the panels over a long time period. Rural parts of the developing world are littered with broken down water filter systems, bio-gas feeders, electric pumps, etc. Without training and education programs at regional and local levels, the availability of replacement parts, and local repair people, solar panels will end up in the rural stuff graveyard. What do you think?

]]> By: 石弥迦 http://greenleapforward.com/2009/03/07/solarizing-for-security/#comment-6283 石弥迦 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:07:08 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=174#comment-6283 Looks like you got your wish: http://www.sinofile.net/clients/amcweb.nsf/amcA/E9F4D61F623A488748257571000AF74E Looks like you got your wish:
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