Comments on: China in Copenhagen Day 4: Back to BASICs! http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/ Tracking the emerging technological, commercial, political and social revolution that is greening China's red-hot economy. Thu, 17 May 2012 09:44:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » How Did China Fare in Copenhagen? A Critical Analysis by Someone Not in the Room http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-31332 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » How Did China Fare in Copenhagen? A Critical Analysis by Someone Not in the Room Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:40:15 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-31332 [...] posts: “Green Hops: BASIC Instinct…“; “Copenhagen Kickoff” and “China in Copenhagen Day 4: Back to BASICS!“.   Additionally, a comprehensive set of positions articulated by Premier Wen Jiabao on [...] [...] posts: “Green Hops: BASIC Instinct…“; “Copenhagen Kickoff” and “China in Copenhagen Day 4: Back to BASICS!“.   Additionally, a comprehensive set of positions articulated by Premier Wen Jiabao on [...]

]]> By: Has a U.S-China agreement on transparency been reached? | Climate Vine http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-30798 Has a U.S-China agreement on transparency been reached? | Climate Vine Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:37:45 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-30798 [...] actually shouldn’t be completely surprised by this unfolding of events.  As was already pointed out in the first week of these Copenhagen proceedings, the revelation of the text by the BASIC [...] [...] actually shouldn’t be completely surprised by this unfolding of events.  As was already pointed out in the first week of these Copenhagen proceedings, the revelation of the text by the BASIC [...]

]]> By: China in Copenhagen, Day 10 & 11: Of Chickens and Eggs | Climate Vine http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-30687 China in Copenhagen, Day 10 & 11: Of Chickens and Eggs | Climate Vine Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:16:41 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-30687 [...] we already explained previously,  China (along with South Africa, India and Brazil) have been thinking of transparency measures [...] [...] we already explained previously,  China (along with South Africa, India and Brazil) have been thinking of transparency measures [...]

]]> By: The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » China in Copenhagen, Day 10: Of Chickens and Eggs http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-30656 The Green Leap Forward 绿跃进 » China in Copenhagen, Day 10: Of Chickens and Eggs Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:53:21 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-30656 [...] we already explained previously,  China (along with South Africa, India and Brazil) have been thinking of transparency measures [...] [...] we already explained previously,  China (along with South Africa, India and Brazil) have been thinking of transparency measures [...]

]]> By: Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies Blog » China in Copenhagen Day 5: No Country is an Island http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-29974 Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies Blog » China in Copenhagen Day 5: No Country is an Island Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:09:20 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-29974 [...] then reaffirmed what we mentioned yesterday with regards to “auditing, supervision, and assessment” (ASA) laid out in the BASIC text.  He [...] [...] then reaffirmed what we mentioned yesterday with regards to “auditing, supervision, and assessment” (ASA) laid out in the BASIC text.  He [...]

]]> By: G.C. http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/10/china-in-copenhagen-day-4-back-to-basics/#comment-29904 G.C. Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:50:25 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=233#comment-29904 In the CMP on Day 4, Tuvalu made at least seven strong and substantive suggestions for amendments to the Kyoto Protocol (FCCC/KP/CMP/2009/4 and FCCC/KP/CMP/2009/3). As I understand it, those suggestions occupy an entirely distinct legal space from the Copenhagen Protocol proposed in the COP on Day 3 and discussed in your earlier blog post. As you say, China's statement (made as the Day 4 CMP discussion was breaking down) was that they didn't support discussion which "contradicted the mandate of the Kyoto Protocol" or "did not serve the purposes of the Kyoto Protocol." Which of Tuvalu's amendment suggestions did that refer to? We don't know, but as you also note, it wasn't all of them. Having seen the CMP plenary I certainly wouldn't read China's statements as a "shift and softening." They seemed to be saying that they would openly discuss only uncontroversial positions (they gave the diplomatic immunity proposal as one example) while actually blocking a legal amendment proceeding under the Kyoto Protocol just to avoid talking about other, unspecified issues which had been raised. I'm curious to know what--or if--resolution was reached tonight inside the G77. Thoughts? In the CMP on Day 4, Tuvalu made at least seven strong and substantive suggestions for amendments to the Kyoto Protocol (FCCC/KP/CMP/2009/4 and FCCC/KP/CMP/2009/3). As I understand it, those suggestions occupy an entirely distinct legal space from the Copenhagen Protocol proposed in the COP on Day 3 and discussed in your earlier blog post.

As you say, China’s statement (made as the Day 4 CMP discussion was breaking down) was that they didn’t support discussion which “contradicted the mandate of the Kyoto Protocol” or “did not serve the purposes of the Kyoto Protocol.” Which of Tuvalu’s amendment suggestions did that refer to? We don’t know, but as you also note, it wasn’t all of them.

Having seen the CMP plenary I certainly wouldn’t read China’s statements as a “shift and softening.” They seemed to be saying that they would openly discuss only uncontroversial positions (they gave the diplomatic immunity proposal as one example) while actually blocking a legal amendment proceeding under the Kyoto Protocol just to avoid talking about other, unspecified issues which had been raised.

I’m curious to know what–or if–resolution was reached tonight inside the G77.

Thoughts?

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