Comments on: China in Copenhagen, Day 10: Of Chickens and Eggs http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/17/china-in-copenhagen-day-10-of-chickens-and-eggs/ Tracking the emerging technological, commercial, political and social revolution that is greening China's red-hot economy. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:06:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Greenhoof » Blog Archive » The Climate Post: Rumors, intimations, and a deal http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/17/china-in-copenhagen-day-10-of-chickens-and-eggs/#comment-30810 Greenhoof » Blog Archive » The Climate Post: Rumors, intimations, and a deal Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:01:59 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=246#comment-30810 [...] Accelerates–Transparently: Scrutiny of the U.S.-China dialogue intensified Friday, as world leaders remained locked in talks. President Barack Obama’s [...] [...] Accelerates–Transparently: Scrutiny of the U.S.-China dialogue intensified Friday, as world leaders remained locked in talks. President Barack Obama’s [...]

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]]> By: A Run Through The Latest on Copenhagen | BIOMASS INTEL http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/17/china-in-copenhagen-day-10-of-chickens-and-eggs/#comment-30774 A Run Through The Latest on Copenhagen | BIOMASS INTEL Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:23:36 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=246#comment-30774 [...] Leap Forward reports on the chicken & egg dilemma between U.S. Congress bill or China [...] [...] Leap Forward reports on the chicken & egg dilemma between U.S. Congress bill or China [...]

]]> By: Patrick Lynch http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/17/china-in-copenhagen-day-10-of-chickens-and-eggs/#comment-30695 Patrick Lynch Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:42:20 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=246#comment-30695 One of the most troubling aspects of the whole MRV issue is its timing. Why set up an issue like this and declare it the most important issue in the talks at the last minute? While your analysis makes sense, the tone of American comments from the talks has sometimes seemed to suggest that the most important thing to come out of the talks will be the scapegoating of China and the shifting of blame for Global Warming problems away from the US. If it is indeed just a communications issue, then it bodes poorly for future relations, since there are likely to be many more such. And it also further points out the folly of making big complicated demands in the 12th hour of negotiations. People usually do this only when they are trying to kill the negotiations. I am disturbed that most of the US MSM (that I read, clearly being a subset), still touts the US figure as 17% making it look comparable to the European figure of 20%. It has been nice to see a few articles that point out that it is more like 3-4%. Thanks for the posts! One of the most troubling aspects of the whole MRV issue is its timing. Why set up an issue like this and declare it the most important issue in the talks at the last minute? While your analysis makes sense, the tone of American comments from the talks has sometimes seemed to suggest that the most important thing to come out of the talks will be the scapegoating of China and the shifting of blame for Global Warming problems away from the US. If it is indeed just a communications issue, then it bodes poorly for future relations, since there are likely to be many more such. And it also further points out the folly of making big complicated demands in the 12th hour of negotiations. People usually do this only when they are trying to kill the negotiations.

I am disturbed that most of the US MSM (that I read, clearly being a subset), still touts the US figure as 17% making it look comparable to the European figure of 20%. It has been nice to see a few articles that point out that it is more like 3-4%.

Thanks for the posts!

]]> By: China in Copenhagen, Day 10 & 11: Of Chickens and Eggs | Climate Vine http://greenleapforward.com/2009/12/17/china-in-copenhagen-day-10-of-chickens-and-eggs/#comment-30686 China in Copenhagen, Day 10 & 11: Of Chickens and Eggs | Climate Vine Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:16:20 +0000 http://greenleapforward.com/?p=246#comment-30686 [...] By Angel Hsu and Andrew Barnett, part of Yale University’s “Team China” blogging live from Copenhagen, re-posted from The Green Leap Forward. [...] [...] By Angel Hsu and Andrew Barnett, part of Yale University’s “Team China” blogging live from Copenhagen, re-posted from The Green Leap Forward. [...]

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